Instrument Training

Instrument Training

I am wanting to start my intrument training this spring.  Does anyone have and recomendations of books or DVD's that I can use to start studying now?

I own a C172 that is a very VFR only bird so my taining will be in one of the rentals at the FBO.  On that note, what do you consider good equipment in the plane for IFR flight.  Once I have my rating I don't intend to fly in storms with 1 mile visibility and a 200 foot ceiling, I am more interested in this to allow me to move through cloud layers and the extra training and knowledge that comes with the rating.

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     Dave

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Dave,
I bought the Sportys Instrument training kit.  It is very informative but I recommend the Jep Inst/commercial text to back it up.

I did my private with the use of the Cessna CDROM kit.  After comparing the two I would recommend spending the extra for the Cessna package.  It will cost you a couple hundred more but I thought their format for the private was outstanding.  It was broken up into easily digested sections with a goal for each section.  The Sporty's is sometimes a bit overwhelming to me with all of the info that is plugged into it.  This is my review of the two I have (and am using).  Either one is very helpful

Good luck on you Instrument.  I have about 30 hours in my plane for I-training.  One thing that you will learn about your plane when you start the training is that your plane is probably not as water tight as you thought it would be!  I found a few areas where the gaskets and seals were in need of repairs.

Good luck!!!

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Thanks for the reply Tony.

    Dave

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Dave,

I had a few thoughts...

I used a Sporty's instrument test on computer several years ago. It trained me to take the test.  Basically, they present all possible test questions.  I Scored high (1 wrong), but didn't learn much; It’s called teaching to the test.  Comprehensive learning would not be your objective with those materials, but you will pass the test.  A good instrument book and instructors will give you a lot of the basic knowledge you will need to fly IFR.  Experience will solidify your learning, but what else is new?  My opinion.

RE the IFR airplane.  Too bad you have to rent.  Are you sure you can’t use your plane?  Besides the required equipment in the FARs, Your plane needs to pass the static system test and Mode C test in the last 24 months to be IFR certified.  The Altimeter needs to pass it's 24 month test but that is also needed for VFR certification.   Now all you need is some electronic equipment to support flying the instrument approach procedures you will be using and for enroute navigation.  A minimum of 1 - VOR is needed for low level enroute instruments. (2 VORs is much better, but you can get away with one, a lot more work.)  An ADF or DME will add to the approaches you can fly and at the time I did the training the ADF approaches were required.  I always wanted a glide slope and localizer, because I felt a precision approach is very important in the eventuality weather is just not accurately forecasted.  If you have an certified enroute GPS or better, is of course ideal.  I would want to learn as much as I can in my own plane, because that's what you are going to fly and feel most comfortable.

If I were to do it again, I would invest in an inexpensive training device e.g. On-Top (I own it now), you can put it on your PC/laptop for practicing procedures and maintaining skills and learning.  Get a Yoke and rudder petals and impress your friends.  Although you can't count the time, it would have helped me to keep up with the learning. 

Good luck

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The King CD is excellent.  I used the Gleim to prepare for the written.  The IFR rating is the most difficult but really refines your piloting skills.

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Barry; I own my plane.  It's a 1956 C172 and a very VFR aircraft.  I am thinking of either putting a 180hp on my bird and adding the nessecery instruments and radios to be a decent IFR bird or purchasing a 50's model 182.  I am sticking with older planes because I prefer the looks of the straight tail and the razor back fuselodge.

I know some people think it's nuts to put alot of money into a plane like that but I sure would have one sweet 172 when done!  I have no illusions that I will NOT recoup that money if I sell it.  The money would be spent with the idea of keeping the plane another 10 years or so.

I am contemplaing upgrading my bird because of the lower operating costs, mainly fuel and insurance...

      Dave

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People should not think you are a "nut" for spending money on an older aircraft of the style that you like. I have a 1962 182E, that I have nearly completely restored. Fortunately for it, it had been kept in a hangar for nearly all of its years. Anyway, I think that making your aircraft look good comes under the heading, "Pride of Ownership".
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Thats very true Glen!  I agree 110%!

     Dave

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The computer-based instruction materials out there are pretty good, but if you really want to nail your instrument knowledge, dig into the Jeppesen Instrument manual. Likewise, read the FAA's Instrument Flying Handbook; the latest version is less complex, but the previous edition has information that's thorough.

Lastly, read the 2004 AIM, Sections 4 and 5.

Old fashioned reading is time intensive, but it is well worth your time. This is the rating you need to learn at the level as though you were teaching it, because in the clouds alone with lost Comms, you'll want to be 100% confident in your decision-making ability.

Good luck.

David Aldridge, CFI
Santa Paula, California

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  I used the King CD home  study course and it worked out very well, passed with a 90.Then I signed up for a 10 day IFR training course, I waited for 6 weeks to get on their schedule and finally got an instructor to come out and begin my training. After 5 days we encountered bad weather which would have been great for IFR training, only the instructor refused to fly in anything but perfect skies. After 10 days of training I was not only not ready for a checkride of any kind but was asked by the school to pay for additional training days and of course this meant additional expenses for the instructor as well.

Needless to say, I sent this particular instructor home. Disgruntled at this point I called several  local training schools but none could provide me with a Finish-up course or a guarantee that I felt at this point I needed. I did my research and found Accelerated Flight & Instrument Training (AFIT) they sent a great instructor and provided me with a Finish-up program that worked for me on my schedule. Three days of additional training with a checkride on the 4th day along with a written guarantee. I nailed the checkride and learned more in three days than I had learned in months. I thought others that are seeking IFR training might be interested.

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Micheal
WCM
Irvine California

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