Spin Training

Spin Training

I am contemplating getting an hour of dual and taking some spin training.  The thought of spinning an aircraft scares the crap out of me but I feel it is something I should do a few times with an instructor so I can be prepared.

I have been a pilot for 20 years now and I'm going to start on my IFR ticket soon, I have almost 700 hours of time.

What are your thoughts on spin trianing?

     Dave

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Dave,
I'm all for the idea of spin training.  An occasional refresher is a good idea too.
I had the same feelings about spins that you have when I was learning to fly.  (I watched those war movies...I KNEW what a spin was like!!!  ;-)
Learning to DO a spin, I think, is also learning how not NOT to do one....hands on.  Being told something is one thing...doing it is a whole other thing...much better way of learning

When my instructor told me we were going to do them soon, I asked "how high?"  He said  "'bout five thousand".  I replied...."How about eight?"  I was pretty nervous about it.  As it turned out, I had the opportunity to go up with another CFI at no charge :-).  He asked what I'd like to work on.  I mentioned the spins.  We discussed it...went up, and at 3K' he showed me one as he talked through it.  We climbed back to 3K and it was my turn...I was already in a sweat over it.  The first one was pretty stressful (mentally).  The second was better.  After the third one, a single turn spin was downright fun.
3k' AGL gives you plenty of room...in a 150 anyway...
Make sure your aircraft is approved for them...I think the 172 is...my 182 is not...not really sure why...I'll just simply avoid them.

Be careful...after you do a few...you might end up having to get an aerobatic plane!!  ;p

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I took spin training during my initial private training. I am VERY glad I did it. After 3 or 4 spins (not 3 or 4 rotations, but separate spins) I had to land and get reoriented by standing on terra firma for a gew minutes, but then we'd go up again. Its a great confidence builder.

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Hi David

Here in Canada, spin training is a part of our basic training.
I can tell you - quite honestly and absolutely - that you will enjoy it.
We hear so much scary stuff about spins - and I'll now tell you what it is like in a 172 (my only experience)

For practice - at least 3000ft AGL
Cut power, Full stall & kick full rudder (left works best)
Spin
Neutralise control column in both directions (no turn/no climb)
At same time - opposite rudder to direction of spin
It stops spinning right now!
Neutralise everything & slowly pull up & restore power.
So much fun - do it again!

It really is fun - go do it smile

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I have spun several different aircraft.  During my initial training, I spun a C-152.  I was (solo) practicing stalls and screwed up. One time I hit the wrong rudder and the second time I tried to lift the wing and hit the power.  Oooooooops!!  My instructor had not shown me a spin yet but I remembered what he told me about recovering from a spin and also an article about spins.
During my CFI training, the chief flight instructor and I were doing spins in a C-172.  We could only get one and one half turns before the airplane stopped rotation.  We tried to maintain the spin but the Skyhawk said NO!!   

Should you find yourself in a spin remember PARE
P=power, reduce throttle
A=ailerons, neutral
R=rudder, oppisite rudder until rotation stops, neutral rudder
E=Elevator, stick (yoke) forward to break the stall and recover

Remember, the aircraft must first be stalled before the aircraft can spin.
The FAA Flight Training Handbook, as well as many of the better training books, have some excellent illistrations of spins.
A spin will have a low airspeed while a spiral will have an increasing airspeed.
Be sure to read the owners manual or P.O.H. Stalls are prohibited in some aircraft.

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hey man, I did my spin training for the 1st time today.  As part of my CFI course it had to be done.  I was uneasy about it as well, but it was just because it was something I had never done.  It is like your 1st landing, all the thoughts running through your head.  It was incredible, all I want to do now is rent a 152 and go spin right now.

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Good for you! Now you're ready for the next step- aerobatics in a Decathlon, Extra, whatever. The most fun you can have with your clothes on wink

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Hey Dave,
That was a nice article about your 172 in the most recent COO Magazine. Good looking aircraft!!
Glenn
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Glenn Darr Wrote:
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> Hey Dave,
> That was a nice article about your 172 in the most
> recent COO Magazine. Good looking aircraft!!
> Glenn
> 182E



Thanks Glenn

    Dave

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I did spin training with Craig Fordem in his Extra 300L at Boulder City, NV.  It was well worth the effort.  We began with simple steep turns and then practiced stalls. After that we did spins to the right and spins to the left.  The key to spin recovery is knowing the direction of your spin.  The inverted flight was just an extra thrill, which everyone should experience.  Going inverted with get your heart to pumping.

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I started my training in the late 70's after years of reading the aftermath columns in Flying. I'd seen a ton of stories about stall-spins so I shopped for an instructor that would teach spins based on the theory that if I knew what it felt like to get into a spin I'd not only know how to get out but would be more likely to avoid the problem at low levels.

We flew a straight tail 150. I find that spinning with an instructor is much more fun that spinning when solo but I still practice the manuver at least a few times / quarter in my 56 172 (spins are approved in the utility category).

I have had at least two experiences flying with someone else as PIC when I've pushed in the power after my butt told me we were close. Both cases were on short final with the plane way off the centerline and the pilot was trying to skid the plane back on course while really slow.  I can't prove we'd have gone in if the power hadn't come on but I believe it was close both times. I'd go for the training. 

I've scheduled a few hours of unusual attitude training when my next BFR is due because I've talked to several people that were flipped while low (each time due to wake turbulence).  I know the theory of how to roll the plane but I've never tried it. I've decided to get some hands on with the hope I could react instead of think if I was ever in that situation by accident.

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