international flights on a cessna

international flights on a cessna

hi, i was just wanting some information, a friend has offered to make the trip over to australia to pick me up and fly me back to the eastern USA. Could somebody just give me some general information about long haul flights in a small plane and whether or not its feasible. thank you all. cheers jack

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I knew someone who made a couple of ferry flights in Cessna singles to Hawaii from Calif.
As I recall...    (mind you, he did this stuff when GPS was just an idea..)
Step one....strip out everything that's not necessary for the plane to fly.
       (Radios, nav stuff, all seats, except for pilot seat, and whatever else. One comm radio and some kind of HF radio as VORs are few and far between)

Step two....put an auxillary fuel tank inside the cockpit.

Step three...put in necessary life raft, personal floation device, a few days worth    of water/food rations...

Step four...get ferry permit and whatever other paperwork is needed.

Step five...do some serious weather forcast studies

Step six...Do several preflight checks AND have your best pilot friend double check for you...that's on top of the mechanic's certifying it for the ferry trip.

Step seven...Take off from an oceanside runway in the direction you want to go.  Hope to get better than a ZERO FPS rate of climb.

Perhaps the jaunt across the ocean from Australia isn't as far as California to Hawaii and the aux fuel wont be required
The trip up Africa, Europe & UK sounds like it could be a great adventure!!
Then, there's the island hopping across the north Atlantic...I think that can be done in a single engine...

If the trip pans out, I'm sure there are a lot of us that would like to hear about it!  I hope it does.
Blue skies!!
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Re: international flights on a cessna

Jacki, my father did that for many years with russian planes taking off from Cuba. But I'm wondering what A/C are we talking about here? that's a long trip and if you want to do it then you need to prepare your self well. I know that if you go through the north atlantic, you can get some good winds in your favor that can almost double your ground speed. make sure you have a GPS and plenty of fuel.
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Well there is small single engine and there is bigger small single engine!! In a 172, I probably would forget it. Two persons on board and a ferry tank which is big enough is not a compatible combination IMHO. From Australia eastward, the big jump is Hawai to CA. I went from the US to Europe, then through Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Thailand, Indonesia, then Australia. Coming back it was somewhat more difficult as it was post 9/11. Bombay - Oman was the only way through which makes it a quite long leg. In my Mooney, I had a range with reserve of 1200-1300 NM. The longest was over Saudi Arabia (Bahrein to Luxor) Tremendous headwinds over some of the trip. Saudi does not have Avgas and therefore you do not have too many options. Shorter would be through Iran, but I do not know how this would pen out considering the political situation there.
If you have questions feel free to ask.
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Michael Meadows Wrote:
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> I knew someone who made a couple of ferry flights
> in Cessna singles to Hawaii from Calif.
> As I recall...    (mind you, he did this stuff
> when GPS was just an idea..)
> Step one....strip out everything that's not
> necessary for the plane to fly.
>        (Radios, nav stuff, all seats, except for
> pilot seat, and whatever else. One comm radio and
> some kind of HF radio as VORs are few and far
> between)
>
> Step two....put an auxillary fuel tank inside the
> cockpit.
>
> Step three...put in necessary life raft, personal
> floation device, a few days worth    of water/food
> rations...
>
> Step four...get ferry permit and whatever other
> paperwork is needed.
>
> Step five...do some serious weather forcast
> studies
>
> Step six...Do several preflight checks AND have
> your best pilot friend double check for
> you...that's on top of the mechanic's certifying
> it for the ferry trip.
>
> Step seven...Take off from an oceanside runway in
> the direction you want to go.  Hope to get better
> than a ZERO FPS rate of climb.
>
> Perhaps the jaunt across the ocean from Australia
> isn't as far as California to Hawaii and the aux
> fuel wont be required
> The trip up Africa, Europe & UK sounds like it
> could be a great adventure!!
> Then, there's the island hopping across the north
> Atlantic...I think that can be done in a single
> engine...
>
> If the trip pans out, I'm sure there are a lot of
> us that would like to hear about it!  I hope it
> does.
> Blue skies!!
> Michael
>

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