Avcon / Bush Conversions

Avcon / Bush Conversions

Has anyone installed a Bush or Avcon 180 HP C/S conversion on a 172 recently?  I have called Bush Conversions a couple of times and don't get a good feeling at all from the woman on the phone.  She is very evasive and doesn't know anything about the product they are supposedly selling.  Additionally, she refuses to put me in contact with anyone that can answer my questions.  Very weird...

On the other hand, the Avcon guy seems knowledgable and willing to work with me.  Now I find out that apparently Bush and Avcon are one in the same and that there are lots of very unhappy former customers.  Someone even told me that they are manufacturing parts without a PMA.  Something very fishy seems to be going on in Kansas.  Anyone out there have any personal experience or insight?

Thanks.

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My understanding is that these STC's are held by Robert and Barbara Williams. Most of the comments that have appeared in this forum over the years involve the inability to get through to Robert with questions and concerns. It is certainly not a lack of expertise on his part. Calls are usually fielded in their home and messages can go unanswered for extended periods of time. Does not result in a warm, fuzzy feeling when spending big bucks.

There have been some good things posted about the DelAir conversions (Harry Deliker), and you may also want to consider that option.

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Harry at Del Air will have all the infomation you wil ever need.  He is a great guy and has more airplane knowledge than anyone I know of in the STC world for cessna's as well as the STC's.  Del airs # is:  559-784-9440

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I am having the exact same problem.  My conversion was done in 1996 by the previous owner.  The spinner has cracked and it is, apparently a unique part.  I've talked to "Darlene" who is the only one who answers the phone.  She's nice enough, but has been no help at all.  I finally got an e-mail address from her for Barbara Williams, who is, or used to be the owner.  At one point she answered my e-mail and aased me some questions about the plane, saying she would get back to me with price and availability.  That was on Spetember 21.  However, she has not gotten back to me despite repreated phone calls, e-mails and a letter from me.

I am at my wits' end.  Any suggestions?  have you, by any chance, got a spinner you'd be willing to sell?

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Rumor is that "Darlene" at Bush is actually Barbara Williams.  That might explain why she is so evasive with information and will not let you talk to Mrs. Williams.  This is a very strange deal.

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That would be too weird for words.  I've probably spoken with "Darlene" a dozen times.  She says that Barbara is traveling and caring for her sick mother in California.  She says that she will get my messages to Barbara, but that is all she can do.

All I want to do is give them some business, and get a spinner that will work on my plane.  Does anyone have any ideas of a spinner that will work with this Bush Conversion?

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Skip,

I just saw your  10/2006 post and your concern in trying to deal with the Williams. I have a complete Avcon spinner and backing plate which I removed from a AVCON converted 170B.   If you still are looking I will work with you.

GAry Moore     907-229-3353

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I'm interested in a Cessna Aerobat with a higher horsepower engine upgrade.  Does anyone know which of the conversions allow retention of the aerobatic certification for both the C150 and the C152 Aerobats?

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I have been trying for 2 1/2 months to get an estimated ship date from Bush Conversions for a 175 conversion. Mind Boggeling, is all I can say. I began calling Bob (robert) at AvCon for information, and even offered to pay for the STC just to get the paperwork to my AP and still no dice!
Dose anyone out there have the paperwork for a Bush 175 conversion, they are willing to share? I would like to provide my AP with it (he has not done one of these conversions) for obvious reasons. Also, any comments on the installation would be helpful. Thanx!

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Good morning,

my name is José Lozano, and I am positioned as Maintenance Director in a Maintenance Center in Canary Islands (Spain), approved under EASA Part 145 regulations, "Aeroclub de Gran Canaria, Part 145 ES-076".

Does anybody know the Mr Delliker e-mail address?

Thanks.

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I am trying to find out as much information on the Avcon  Bush Conversion for the 170B. I am looking at buying a plane that has this conversion with a three bladed Hartzell prop. Is this part of the conversion? The seller has the STC and it shows that it is land base only but the guy has had it on floats, so he is selling the plane advertised with a float kit on it. I guess what I'm trying to find out is, any info I can about this conversion on floats? Would I ever be able to put this on a set of float?

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I have a 170B in the shop now with the Doyn (currently owned by Avcon/Bush). The exhaust system is incorrect (other CEssna model). I am in need of a new or serviceable complete exhaust system for this. I have had the same problems getting any calls back or even a phone call answered form the folks in KS.
Any one out there with a system for sale???
I can be reached at 253-939-8750.

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Are there any conversions to add a 180 hp in a 1968 Cardinal?

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I believe you can put a 180 in the older Cardinals per the TCDS as the newer ones had it. I would have to research it though. Where are you located? I am in Washington state.

Charlie
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We fitted a 180 fixed pitch mod to a 1968 cardinal iaw STC1008SW. Great a/c now.
Wayne

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Can a person get a gross weight increase for an existing Avcon conversion 172H with a Lyc 0-360 1A1 with a constant speed prop?

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Hi Skip:

Been down this road too.  Bulkhead is the same as a  Cherokee 180.  I bought a composite one from  TCB composites.  Try www.tcbcomposite.com .If you can't find a part number, email me and I'll research the records for my plane for a P/N.  Same experiences with the Williams, by the way.  Needed a part number for my Bolen taildragger conversion (which they own too) - no help at all unless I paid $795 for the drawings.

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I installed Bush flap gap seals on my Cessna 180 float plane and I am having a hard time to get it off the water!! Has anyone installed these seals and what was the result??
Ron

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lookins to see were i can get a stc for a 036 in a cessna 150

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Jose:

I would be interted in emailing you direct. I went to school in Madrid, and own a paint shop for aircraft here in Arizona.

Your English is so good that you obviously went to school in the USA or England.

Regards,

GUS

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i have an avcon conv and am putting a 80 hartzell does anyone have any info on the cessna nose fork that will accomadate a 600x6 tire the is required for the stc. my email address is This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it regards ken

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