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Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
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Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
<HTML>Said,
I remember you asking this in earlier correspondence,and I rambled on about other issues...
Insurance for me is about 705.00 per year,this is for 29000.00 hull damage,and liability at 1 Million dollars per occurrence.I have a 100.00 deductible.
Tie down is costing 35.00 per month(If you choose a hangar plan on anywhere from 150.00 per month to 500.00(Depending on where you are).
Fuel consumption is about 6 GPH,and depending on wheather you run exclusively 100LL,or Autofuel you can figure an average in my neck of the woods of 1.45 per gallon(Autofuel) and about 2.75 per gallon Avgas.
Annual inspections will vary(Depending on what has been done prior to purchase) but you can plan on anywhere from 500.00 to 1500.00(this will depend on the place you use,and their labor rate)
100 HR inspections should be fairly cheap(By aivation standards).
You must keep in mind incidentals such as ELT batteries(to be replaced typically every 24 months),Air and Oil filters,Oil,etc.
You will be required to have a pitot/Static inspection done every 24 calendar months as well,and this usually will run around 250.00(if all is well).
Tires,exterior plastic,etc.
If its to be tied down outside,I STRONGLY suggest a Cabin Cover(Mine was made by Bruces Custom Covers(EXCELLENT investment) and ran about 300.00.
Im sure there is more that Ive not thought of(its 5:30 am here,and the coffee hasnt kicked in yet) but hopefully this hits the high points...I didnt go into the Major Engine Overhaul cost becaues it can vary so much.....
Tailwinds,
Alan</HTML>
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
<HTML>To figure the direct operating costs of ANY airplane, take its hourly fuel costs and double it.
Cessna 150 = 5 gph @ 2.25/gal = $11.25 doubled = $22.50.
Cessna 172=10 gph @ 2.25/gal = $22.50 doubled = $45.00.
Cessna 206/210 = 15 gph @ 2.25 =$33.75 doubled= $67.50.
Cessna 310 = 34 gph @ 2.25 = $76.50 doubled = $153.00.
HS 125/BAe800 = 400 gph @ 2.00=$800 doubled=$1600.00.
I've always found the formula to be correct within 10%.</HTML>
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
<HTML>Yes. The real eye-opener is that a 206 operates for the same costs as a 182. They both burn 13-15 gph and run 144 kts. But the 206 will carry almost twice the payload, which also means it's running around and much lighter relative weights on typical flights. So a 206 carrying the same load as a 182 is a real go-getter off short strips and climbouts.
What was more interesting to me was when I was shopping for a 182 back in the late '80's. Mid 60's 182's were costing $30K, and so were 206's. I bought a '64 206 for less than $25K with all digital radios and 300 hour engine and new prop. I flew it for 6 years, putting over 600 hours on it and the total mx bill for those 6 years was less than $3K including all it's annuals. When I sold it, I mistakenly sold it to the first caller for $59K. It was probably worth $20K more. It was the best airplane I've ever owned, and I flew it for free! (and pocketed a few thou$and)!</HTML>
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
<HTML>Having owned 4 different airplanes, I will chime in on this.... If a plane is maintained in at LEAST the condition the plane was purchased at, the price will either stay the same or go up in 99.5 % of the cases...usually up. In ALL 4 cases I did not lose a dime on the purchase price and once I made a bit of money. Example. A few years ago I paid $10,000 for a Grumman Yankee with a mild case of hail. Got an instrument rating with it and sold it 100 hours later for $10,000. Of course, the operating costs are ...poof... out the tail pipe. George may have some caveots here too.</HTML>
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
<HTML>Said, the formula is for DIRECT operating costs,...fuel, oil, maintenance. Without knowing all your INDIRECT costs you cannot determine an hourly figure for costs of operation due to so many variables. Think about it. YOU might borrow money at !0% while someone else may borrow it at 14%, ....or APR with a Balloon note at the end. YOU may be a low time pilot performing flight training in the airplane. I may be a 12,000 hour ATP using it for weekend pleasure. Our insurance rates will be very different. YOU may be trying to hangar the airplane in New York City. I may hangar it at my ranch strip runway. Our storage costs will be very different. YOUR mechanic may charge $23/hr. MINE may charge $70/hr. And so on, and so on. YOUR fuel may be $2.25 / gallon, while MY local fuel may cost $2.90 / gallon. (But typically, higher fuel prices are also in areas where higher labor rates also prevail, which is why my formula still works.) Also, INDIRECT costs such as hangar, insurance, etc,. are influenced by the total number of hours flown annually. Direct costs are only incurred DIRECTLY as the result of hourly operation.
My formula is for Direct Operating Costs.</HTML>
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
Walt Beaulieu Wrote:
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> Having owned 4 different airplanes, I will chime
> in on this.... If a plane is maintained in at
> LEAST the condition the plane was purchased at,
> the price will either stay the same or go up in
> 99.5 % of the cases...usually up. In ALL 4 cases
> I did not lose a dime on the purchase price and
> once I made a bit of money. Example. A few years
> ago I paid $10,000 for a Grumman Yankee with a
> mild case of hail. Got an instrument rating with
> it and sold it 100 hours later for $10,000. Of
> course, the operating costs are ...poof... out the
> tail pipe. George may have some caveots here too.
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
I understand that with GPS systems there is a yearly charge for updates, though I saw somewhere, runs around $1200/year. Should this be entered as costs, and does anyone know what the various GPS systems match up, as to use and costs? Portable verse fixed units etc. Looking to buy soon, but still trying to sort out costs, and such, probably a 172.. prefer stol.. and maybe tail dragger..but costs are all over the place it seems..
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
<span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">Walt Beaulieu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Having owned 4 different airplanes, I will chime > in on this....</span> Walt Beaulieu Wrote: ---------------------------------------------- ---------> Tendo propriedade 4 aviões diferentes, eu gritei> nos sobre este ....</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">If a plane is maintained in at > LEAST the condition the plane was purchased at, > the price will either stay the same or go up in > 99.5 % of the cases...usually up.</span> Se um avião é mantida a> menor condição de o avião foi comprado,> o preço vai ficar o mesmo tanto ou subir em> 99,5% dos casos ... geralmente acima.</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">In ALL 4 cases > I did not lose a dime on the purchase price and > once I made a bit of money.</span> Em todos os 4 casos> Eu não perdi um centavo no preço de compra e> uma vez eu fiz um pouco de dinheiro.</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">Example.</span> Exemplo.</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">A few years > ago I paid $10,000 for a Grumman Yankee with a > mild case of hail.</span> Alguns anos> atrás eu pago US $ 10.000 para um Yankee Grumman com um caso> leve de granizo.</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">Got an instrument rating with > it and sold it 100 hours later for $10,000.</span> Tem um instrumento de avaliação com> ele e vendeu 100 horas mais tarde para $ 10.000.</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">Of > course, the operating costs are ...poof...</span> Do> curso, os custos operacionais são ... puf ...</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">out the > tail pipe.</span> fora do tubo de cauda>.</span> <span onmouseover="_tipon(this)" onmouseout="_tipoff()"><span class="google-src-text" style="direction: ltr; text-align: left">George may have some caveots here too.</span> George pode ter algumas caveots aqui também.</span>
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
Hi Everyone,
We are flying our 1958 Cessna 310A/ U-3A to Oshkosh this year and parking in warbirds parking. Our aircraft is ex-military and fully restored, I was curious if anyone else is currently fling one of these aircraft and going to Oshkosh?
Thanks Jeff
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
Walt Beaulieu Wrote:
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> Having owned 4 different airplanes, I will chime
> in on this.... If a plane is maintained in at
> LEAST the condition the plane was purchased at,
> the price will either stay the same or go up i
> 99.5 % of the cases...usually up. In ALL 4 cases
> I did not lose a dime on the purchase price and
> once I made a bit of money. Example. A few years
> ago I paid $10,000 for a Grumman Yankee with a
> mild case of hail. Got an instrument rating with
> it and sold it 100 hours later for $10,000. Of
> course, the operating costs are ...poof... out the
> tail pipe. George may have some caveots here too.
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
hello everyone,i have no experience flying and would like to buy a cessna 207 and hire someone to teach me to fly it.based on the fuel consumption figures presented here it makes plenty of sense to me.i am 48 years old and would prefer not spending years learning in a 172.i have been told both it can be done and also cautioned against it.whatdayathink? thanks!
Re: flying cost for a cessna 150
My suggestion is to get at least 1 hr of Dual in a 152 or 172 type.
When you do that consider that the 207 will also have;
1. Fuel Injection
2. engine driven & electric fuel pumps
3. Cowl Flaps
4. Constant Speed Prop
5. Manifold pressure
You can do it but you have more things to do & things happen faster.
why not fly a 152/172 till you Solo?
If you REALLY want to it can be done in 1 week.
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