182 engine upgrades

182 engine upgrades

Hey guys/gals, I'm part of a skydiving club with 2 182s. We are looking into upgrading one of the engines currently an 0-470. We're leaning towards P-ponk because of the price, but I wanted to see if any owners out there had done any upgrades. I'm looking for fuel burns, climb rates, tbos. any information would help. Thanks.

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I fly a 180 with a P-Ponk engine and I am not impressed with the engineering. It has a lot of problems running too lean. I would recommend a Texas Skyway conversion. I would get one of there O550's.

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I have a TX skyways engine that has had to have a teardown inspection due to contamination at 355 hours and 6 months.  It appears at this point that they will not warranty it even thought they twice said that they would. 


I will up date this if and when they warranty the engine.

Having said that, it gives great performance.

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I received a cheque for the teardown and repair (the engine shop found that that there was excessive crankcase sealant and the WRONG cylinder base seals installed callusing fretting). 

RAM apparently knew that they had done this on a number of engines that they built for Texas Skyways and said nothing. 

I personally feel that RAM or Texas Skyways should cover the $3000.00 for the removal/installation and shipping that I had to spend in order to get this repaired.  After all RAM apparently knew what was wrong with this when we started to have troubles.


What’s your thought on this?  Should I be out of pocket for the removal/installation and shipping?

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Yikes. Ive just taken delivery of my new 0550 in January. Hope they fixed this problem before! If not I'll keep my eyes open. What clued you in to the sealant? High silicone on sample?

Other than this scare, I would recommend 0550 unless you are a wrench turner yourself. Friends with Pponk seem to go through alot of jugs.

I have a 56 with the 0550. Keep in touch and we'll let you know performance during jump season. Right now she still has passeger set up installed.

During ferry, with two on board. full fuel and baggage we were climbing at 1700' per minute on a cold day, cruising at 150-155 mph indicated.

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I doubt that they have fixed the problem.  A Ram employee told me that they knew that 25 of the last 55 had the wrong seals installed.  That meant that mine left with the incorrect parts in it. And they also knew this when I was asking for trouble shooting help.

I have talked with RAM and they advise me that they have no interest in covering the costs of the repair after all they only built the engine.

The manager at ram said that there is a debate on weather the parts were wrong or not.  I said that the drawings call for part number "XXXXX" not part "XXXXX or debatable part"

So I am out money.  I believe that there are a number of other engines out there that are nothing more than a time bomb and RAM seems to have on interest in helping the owners of these engines or my self. 

If you have already purchased the engine and cannot return it I would remove a cylinder to check if the base O rings are correct. If they are the wrong ones it will be far cheaper for you to change them your self than wait for your engine to need a teardown and only get about 70% of the repair costs repaid to you.


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I own a 1966 182 with a P-ponk engine and think it's great.  I also follow the 180/185 club closely and those guys really like the P-ponk engines.  No problems with cooling or running lean.  The 550's are great but your fuel burn is substantially higher than the P-ponks.

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