Big airspace radio procedures

Big airspace radio procedures

I have been flying for many years but am limited in flying experience around large airports and in using things such as flight following, approach control, etc. The vast majority of my experience is way out in the boondocks of East Texas and the only people I talk to is the sparse traffic pattern pilots.

We don't have an instructor anywhere near me so I am looking for a book, video or something that will help me identify who to talk to if I want to fly near DFW or any other large controlled airport. The pilots manual is fairly sterile in this regard and in the regard to which center, radio, or controller to talk to when asking for various clearances.

I know this is probably a very simplistic question to ask but I have no ego when it comes to safety and would appreciate any tips on where to locate information in plain English and not FAR-speak....Thanks,
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Re: Big airspace radio procedures

Just FYI. I found a great book at Sporty's Pilot Shop called "Say Again?" It covers everything I was asking about and should give me a plain English translation of what I find in other sources:-)  Thanks!
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There are a few good books from Sporty as mentioned on the last post, also king schools etc... However, if you have a handheld VHF radio and are close to a Class B or even a class C airport, I would recommend tuning in the approach frequency for that area and just listening. You will hear all levels of pilots flying through. Soon enough you'll be able to discern who is doing it right. There is the right way, the proper way, the common way, and the wrong way.. then go out there and fly close to the area staying out of the Clas B at the beginning but getting into the system by requesting flight following or traffic advisories. The most important thing to do is to not cut in between transmissions. Everything else is tolerated as long as it is short and to the point. Listen to the airlines if you want to do it right.

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Hi guys,

I was wondering if anyone had any links to web resources regarding this topic of radio communication in busier (Class B) airspace... I fly a Cessna 172 and I now call 3SQ home... The only thing I am not accustomed is being at an airport that sits right smack under a Class B shelf. Unfortunately to get to the locations I fly to most, I have to circumnavigate the STL surface Class B airspace which takes me way out of my way and burns precious time on the Hobbs meter. While I will admit this might be the most prudent route, I would like to learn more about communicating with the ATC Approach folks... I get a little antsy thinking about putting around in a cessna and sharing airspace/radio freqs with 737's.. I would specifically like to learn proper protocol, what to ask/not to ask, etc. I do have a scanner and occasionally am able to listen to the big iron but I think being able to review a web resource would be really helpful too.
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Jon Wrote:
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> Hi guys,
...I do have a scanner
> and occasionally am able to listen to the big iron....

Jon, You cracked me up with that phrase...BIG IRON....I used to run a 145 repair facility and one project was re-skinning a 737-300 belly. Right between the cargo bays. I had some of the boys haul that huge hunk o sheet metal to a scrap yard to see what we could get for it.
That hunk of aluminum paid for our Christmas party! LOL
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