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For Tom and Don-Windows

I finally took the old side windows out of my plane today...in mostly small pieces... and was going to replace them with new ones but the window felt I bought is far too thick to fit in the channel for the windows. I cracked both replacements (owner made) even after using a very slick lubricant.

What would you think of using felt only on the outside edge and the back of the windows and just sealing the front with clear RTV? I went ahead and ordered two new green tint side windows and will try again next week but not with felt wrapped around the edge of the windows. I cleaned the channels real good and even lubricated them but the felt is about twice as thick as the old rubber U channel that is typically found on windows.

Any words of wisdom? The Cessna rubber seal seems hard to find and most window vendors now send felt with the windows they sell.
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I think that you will need some type of cushion on each side of the window. Not doing so will almost guarantee stress cracks. You might check with your local Cessna shop. they will most likely have the correct material and the price may be reasonable. Check iwantcessnaparts.com Their price is $1.24/ft. Part number is s1166-1 superceded by R581443

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Don,
Thanks for the information. I finally got the right channel ordered today and hope to have those windows in next weekend. I finally got the plane back after the horrific $7,250.00 annual and I am looking forward to flying it after I get the windows in.

I sure do appreciate the information on the part numbers. Hunting parts is the worst part of owning an airplane.
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Reece,

Check a couple of post down. The poster is offering free copies of maint and parts manuals......

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Thanks Don,
I have copies of my parts manual that I downloaded from the site several months back and I am constantly collecting literature from anywhere I can find it that pertains to the Cessna 150G. My biggest problem is that I don't deal with suppliers that much and hope to do so less in the future:-) They all seem proud of their parts when it comes to price but that is what one pays for flying a safe airplane.

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I just wanted to let you know that I got the windows installed this weekend. It's amazing how easy it is with the proper parts! I also replaced my landing light switch and added another vented fuel cap to comply with the existing AD on that subject.

I have my rear window on order and that is the next project. I am going to drill out the existing 3/32 rivets and go back with screws and Tinnerman style fasteners in the event it has to be done again in the future. Now all I have to do is decide whether to go with #6 or #8 screws..decisions, decisions":-)

You all have a great Christmas and let's hope for some good flying weather.
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reecedaniel Wrote:
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> I just wanted to let you know that I got the
> windows installed this weekend. It's amazing how
> easy it is with the proper parts! I also replaced
> my landing light switch and added another vented
> fuel cap to comply with the existing AD on that
> subject.
>
> I have my rear window on order and that is the
> next project. I am going to drill out the existing
> 3/32 rivets and go back with screws and Tinnerman
> style fasteners in the event it has to be done
> again in the future. Now all I have to do is
> decide whether to go with #6 or #8
> screws..decisions, decisions":-)
>
> You all have a great Christmas and let's hope for
> some good flying weather.
> Reece

Good job Reece!!!!!

I would use #6 screws, stainless steel. I believe Cessna uses a sealant between the fairing and the window to keep moisture from getting in. Kinda like plumbers putty. Probably want to use that since the tinnermans will space the fairing away from the fuselage....

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Don,
My IA friend says flat Tinnermans will work fine on the window since there is no load there so that is probably what I will use. I plan to install it with felt and then use an RTV sealant to seal and finish it out. That way I won't have to use the U style Tinnermans and the window should fit as it did originally. What do you think?

Thanks for the info and have a great Christmas.
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The flat timmermans will be better than the u shaped. RTV is not my favorite sealant, seems to get everywhere that you don't want it to be.
Probably would be ok of you run a bead along the fairing under the window edge bend. After you position the fairing, it's best not to move it.
When you install the screws, some of the rtv will squish out onto the window. The best way to femove the excess is to take a damp cloth and a finger and wipe it away, folding the cloth often.After the RTV sets there may be a very thin film remaining.You can remove it by rubbing with your finger or a clean cloth,be careful not to scratch the window....

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Don,
I finally got the new rear window installed. GLAP sent that same *%$# thick felt as last time and of course it wouldn't work. I don't know why they do that. Anyway, the new glass all around sure looks good so I am starting with the installation of new carpet, new plastic, new headliner and new seat covers. I am having a ball restoring this little plane but I'll never be able to sell it for what I have in it. I guess I'll just have to keep it since it now flies hands off with the new rigging and control cables :-)

Thanks again to you and Tom for all of your help.
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