Pickling preservative oil

Pickling preservative oil

<HTML>I want to pickle my O-470 for the winter, while we complete some further scructural projects.

Is there alternative product for TCMs recommended Mil-P-46002,Grade 1,  noted in their service bulletin as NOX RUST VCI-105?  The product is made by Daubert Chemical and is used for spraying in the top ends of the cylinders.

I've checked all my local sources (Portland, OR) and can't locate anything with this spec.  I've called the distributor for NOX RUST in Illinois and they would gladly send me 5 gallons at $68 plus approx. $30 shipping.  I figure I only need a couple of quarts of the stuff.  At most, maybe a gallon to be safe.

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<HTML>Call Norm at Premier Aircraft Engines at Troutdale airport. He has storage oil.</HTML>

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<HTML>Aeroshell 2F fluid is what you want, available from:http://www.shell-lubricants.com/</HTML>

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<HTML>Bob,

I gave Premier a call already.  I don't think I talked with Norm, but they didn't seem to know of this product.

AeroShell Type 2F is what I have in my crankcase. 

What I'm looking for is the preservative oil that is specified for spraying in the top ends and through the oil filler tube, IAW TC Aircraft Engine Service Bulletin M91-5, dated March 18, 1991.

Thanks for the reply,

Mario</HTML>

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<HTML>Hi George,

What I'm looking for is an alternate preservative oil for the top ends and engine via the oil filler tube.

The AeroShell Fluid 2F is for the crankcase only according to TCM Service Bulletin M91-5, Dated 18 March 1991.  Its particular Mil spec is MIL-C-6529 Type II.  I've already accomplished that step.

What I'm after is another source of Mil-P-46002, Grade 1.

Evidently these two are totally two different beasts.  I did get some insight from one of our local oil distributors, as that he thought the P-46002 give off a corrosion protective fume (for lack of better terms) as it vaporizes.  Not sure if I've got all of that correct, but sure sounds like a good idea.

Anyway, as always, your comments are always welcome.

Thanks,

Mario</HTML>

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<HTML>I apologize for not reading your requested MilSpec more carefully.  TCM (and other mfrs) sometimes very freely produce requirements for products/materials/supplies/techniques that are simply not available in small quantities.  (If TCM were required to prescribe specifications and techniques as part of a bid to acquire a government or military contract, they very likely would specify those MilSpecs that were already acceptable to the agency, rather than devise new ones.  It's an easy "out" for them, and may have absolutely no bearing upon a small private operator's ability to comply.  The U.S. Navy probably has a tank-car load of this stuff you are desiring at a depot somewhere under guard.)
Just for curiosity's sake, I looked up the military specification.  Here's what I found.

http://astimage.daps.dla.mil/docimages/ … 46002C.PD8
(18 pages of PDF-format, requires Adobe PDF reader, available free)

Contacting your regional field representative from Teledyne Continental may be a starting place to find a distrubutor of small quantities of the fluid.  Similar fluids are distributed by marine dealers in commercial quantities, frequently in aerosols.
If it were my own engine, I'd probably pull the upper plugs and simply fill the engine completely with Aeroshell 2F.  It'd be pretty difficult for rust to occur in the absence of air (oxygen). 
Meanwhile, if you try really persuasive pleading (especially in the form of a female voice) you may convince the supplier you've already found to send you a small "sales-sample" of their product.  (Unless he's male, and then you've probably got to go ahead and belly up to the bar and buy a $100's worth of the stuff.)  I suppose that having a few gallons left over isn't too bad, considering that the cost of real engine damage from long-term corrosion effects could cost a whole lot more!  Good luck.</HTML>

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<HTML>Hey George,

You know, it's just like everthing else in my new world of GA.  I've got to get used to adding an extra zero or two when I go to purchase something.  I've got a friend who calls them "Cessna units".  He says each unit is approximately $130 - $150.  Easier to say to his wife..  "Well hon, it's only gonna to be a couple of Cessna units".

I guess it's time call the supplier and give them the VISA number (I've got it memorized now).

Thanks again for the help,

Mario Brusasco</HTML>

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