182 Interior

182 Interior

<HTML>Every time I open the door to my 1968 182, pieces of the original interior fall out onto the ramp. Big chunks; little chips. It's time to do something. I'd appreciate any suggestions regarding quality replacement parts.</HTML>

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<HTML>If you do not want to simply hire an aircraft interior shop to rebuild your interior, and if you wish to do it yourself, then you should not be intimidated against the idea of doing it yourself.  Two years ago, Cessna Owner magazine ran a series of articles on this, but in any case, it is well within the purview (and is also legal) of an owner to redo his interior himself.  Although you can certainly purchase fabrics and cut them yourself using your old interior as a pattern, ...You can also contact AirTex and install their custom interiors, or purchase fabrics and materials from them and perform the job yourself.  http://www.airtexinteriors.com</HTML>

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<HTML>George,
   I would like to have a local shop do my interior....BUT, they all say they will not touch the job since it is for an airplane and they do not want to get involved with the FAA and mechanics wanting proof that it will meet some sort of fire retardant standard.... is there such a thing, and how do we prove (if in fact we have to) that it is "approved" material?</HTML>

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<HTML>Bill,  The approved material is a FAR requirement which in short, requires the material to withstand flame for a specified time. Aircraft interior shops will use this approved material so they can legally install the material which has a certified Proof of Burn Test.  I have heard of stories where a owner has a downtown auto shop redue their interior only to later regret it because the FAA (bad deal)  or the following potential buyers discover the material never had this certification.  Then what - Hope that you can find a Person who can perform a burn test and get the material certified. or .....Punt!!         John</HTML>

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<HTML>John K is offering wise advice.  One reason I suggested AirTex is not only can they supply "quck" interior kits, they can also provide fabrics that meet the standards and documentation.  (If you buy  fabrics from them, tell them you will require their certification documentaton for the fabrics.)  George</HTML>

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<HTML>The FAR for interior materials meeting flammability requirements is FAR 23.853, and 25.853.  In your particular case 23.853 applies.  The major difference between the two is in what documentation is required for proof of meeting the FAR.  For Part 23 aircraft, the FAA will accept the manufacturers certifications that their materials meet the requirements of 23.853, this is usually supplied in the form of some type of statement know as a certificate of conformance.  It will simply state the the materials were burn tested and meet the requirements of 25.853, appendix F, Part I. 

Part 25 (transport category) aircraft are different in that they require official flammability test witnesing and approval by FAA engineering, usually in the form of a DER (designated engineering representative).  This documentation will come in the form of an FAA document known as an 8110-3.  The bottom line is for your aircraft, a statement from the manufacturer that the materials meet 23.853 is sufficient.  There are alot of companies out there that sell interior materials, be sure they can provide  documentation. 

One other route you can try is the one that I used.  I simply bought leather from a guy in trade-a-plane.  He gets leather scraps from different aircraft manufacturers and sells them.  I sent some samples to Skandia and actually had them burn tested, (since leather does not burn very well to begin with, I knew that there wouldnt have to be any retardent applied and that they would pass the required burn test).  Skandia is a company that performs burn tests on aircraft interior materials.  The cost was minimal compared to buying material already certified.  The overall savings were 65% of buying certified material.

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<HTML>I too am looking for new seats -- I went to Costco and bought some sheepskins for $36 each -- but they were too large for the 172 seat. Maybe I could have cut and velcroed them -- maybe !. I just gave them to my kid for his car. I also wondered if they would have been legal. I believe Sporty has some for $395 per pair and are custom made for your aircraft type.
I'm now considering contacting a site which advertised on this site about 8 weeks back. They seem to have the best deal on seats that I've found. Check them out
at www. Angelfire.com/rpg/hangarbay

Be careful, I misspell Angelfire as Anglefire and got a girlie site.

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<HTML>I too am looking for new seats -- I went to Costco and bought some sheepskins for $36 each -- but they were too large for the 172 seat. Maybe I could have cut and velcroed them -- maybe !. I just gave them to my kid for his car. I also wondered if they would have been legal. I believe Sporty has some for $395 per pair and are custom made for your aircraft type.
I'm now considering contacting a site which advertised on this site about 8 weeks back. They seem to have the best deal on seats that I've found. Check them out
at www. Angelfire.com/rpg/hangarbay

Be careful, I misspell Angelfire as Anglefire and got a girlie site.

Archie Harrell</HTML>

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fOR ME IT IS VERY INTERSTING TO KNOW HOW WE CAN CERTIFICATE A/C INTERIOR SHOP ( FOR PASSANGER SEATS REPAIR ANT ....) WE ARE WORKING FOR c and D-CHECK'S ,BUT HAVE NO CERTIFICATE INTERIOR SHOP , HAVE ALL  CERTIFACTED MATERIAL , MACHINES AND SO ON. TECHNICS AND MECHANICS IS WORKING WITH A/C MORE THAN 20 YEARS .now I think it is a time to get this information , as I look in AMM iPC 25 chapter for Boeing here are a lot parts that are not reparable but I soo companys certifacets EASA Form that they can repair it . Please let me know if some one have contas of compones that can help with certification of interior shop.Hwo will visit Hambur wxpo this year ?

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Hi cessna owners, should you have any questions about your interior and its legality of doing it yourself please do not hesitate to go to my website and learn more about it  www.aviationscreations.com  there you will find lots of great ideas for doing the interior yourself and be in total FAA complaince on your aircraft.

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NATIONAL FLIGHT SERVICES, INC. Now offers interior products for your aircraft as well as interior services,and help with FAA Documentation.We are uniquely connecting the upholstery trade with general aviation professionals.Please visit our website, www.nationalflight.com

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They will sell you the material, but will not supply you with the documentation, they will tell you,that the testing is on you.There is no sense in this, why bother buying yard goods from them

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I was referring to Airtex materials

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My understanding is Airtex will only provide Certs with kits & NOT by the yard.

This is due to the fact that they did NOT make the fabric.

The Merry-go-round continues.

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I'm biased, of course, because I have an affiliation here, but you can see a few pictures of a 182 we did by going to this page:

lcaero.com/CessnaInteriors.html#C182

At that bottom of that page, you can click to a link where we post our prices but I'm happy to say that for any four seat Cessna, we only charge $5,500 for a complete interior.  Also at the bottom of that page, you can click to see a description of all that we include for that price.

I think we have the lowest prices for complete interiors in the country.  And that's in spite of our high quality work and the top notch materials we use.  Our overhead is low and we don't advertise.  Although, now that I think of it, this post is an advertisement of sorts, huh?

Anyhow, I hope you visit our website even if it's just to get an idea of what might look nice in your plane.  If you choose to have us do an interior for you, mention 'Johhny K' when you call or email and we'll embroider your seats, if you'd like, for no extra charge.

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